Sunday, 23 June 2019

36.2.19.4 Wisdom and Knowledge Series, post #36. Buddhism, post #20.4: CONTINUATION OF Dhamma Wheel message board discussion: extreme bliss feeling without body awareness

Wisdom and Knowledge Series, post #36. Buddhism, post #20.4 (36.2.19.4):

This is my second post in this discussion, and maybe will be also my last post in this discussion:

Re: extreme bliss feeling without body awareness

Post by samsarictravelling » Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:20 pm
"Thus the 1st absorption is free from 5 things (i.e. the hindrances, nīvarana), and 5 things are present (i.e. the factors of absorption; jhānanga). Whenever the monk enters the 1st absorption, there have vanished sensuous desire, ill-will, sloth and torpor, restlessness and scruples, doubts; and there are present: thought-conception (vitakka), discursive thinking (vicāra) rapture (pīti), joy (sukha), and concentration (samādhi). In the 2nd absorption there are present: rapture, joy and concentration; in the 3rd: joy and concentration; in the 4th: equanimity (upekkhā) and concentration" (Vis.M. IV).

The 4 absorptions of the immaterial sphere (s. above 5-8) still belong, properly speaking, to the 4th absorption as they possess the same two constituents. The 4th fine-material absorption is also the base or starting point (pādaka-jhāna, q.v.) for the attaining of the higher spiritual powers (abhiññā).

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My hopefully clearing up (hopefully not confusing, not making an error in) the meaning of the above copy & paste. Sometimes using different English words (for example, 'sensuality' instead of 'sense desires'), though I mean to have the same meaning:

The 1st jhana is free of the five hindrances (sensuality, ill-will, sloth and torpor, flurry and worry, doubt).

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The 1st jhana has these five factors: vitakka, vicara, piti, sukha, samadhi
The 2nd jhana has these three factors, because having lost two factors of the five found in the 1st jhana: piti, sukha, samadhi
The 3rd jhana has these two factors, having lost another factor: sukha, samadhi
The 4th jhana has these two factors: uppekkha, samadhi.

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The four formless jhanas (Infinite Space, Infinite Consciousness, Nothingness, Neither-perception-nor-non-perception) after the four jhanas just described, possess the same two factors of the 4th jhana: uppekkha, samadhi

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The 4th jhana is also the base or starting point for the attaining of the higher spiritual powers (abhiññā). (This last information does not really fit in with the subject of just jhanic bliss, but I found it interesting so I included in this post.)

Source of the copy & paste: 'jhāna' entry in Manual of Buddhist Terms and Doctrines, by NYANATILOKA at palikanon.com website. http://www.palikanon.com/english/wtb/g_m/jhaana.htm

Please excuse me if I do not reply to any repliy to this post.

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samsarictravelling

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